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Post by Bizz on Jul 1, 2017 17:51:36 GMT -5
Word Order Change:
Abigeno officially now has a bit more restriction on its word order. Agents/patients (Words with -yr/-yn) are still free but the verb must always be at the end of any clause of any kind. This will affect regular sentences, relative clauses, and verb nominalization clauses.
Ex. This is a change. Trans. Där bozdrun wev Lit. this change is
Ex. A walking person. Trans. Sor scigav jang. Lit. that walks person
Ex. Plant killing Trans. Tänbovdövyng Lit. plant act of killing
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Post by Bizz on Jul 1, 2017 18:33:24 GMT -5
Forming Imperatives have been changed. Good riddance "Ba"!:
Now in Abigeno, to form imperatives, you simply drop the subject (or really agent) pronoun.
ex. Len fav! trans. Do it!
To do "let's" formations, you use the word "lau" and put that in imperative and use "so" if your adding extra verbs.
ex. Sor len viv min lauv! trans. Let me/lemme see it! lit. that it see me allow
Why wasn't it like this before? Because I didn't want pro-dropping sentences to be completely ambiguous with imperative sentences. So i decided to add a word to specifically facilitate this function which was Ba. However, now, if there's any potential confusion between the two you can instead state afterwards that your statement was a command/request or even say something like "i command/request that..." in place of the imperative.
As a result, Ba is a completely useless word and will be sent to the word graveyard (Yes I have a word graveyard. I just find it cool to look back on some of the decisions made and the history of the language's development.)
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Post by Bizz on Jul 1, 2017 19:06:20 GMT -5
Translating some definitions of if:
on (the) condition that So ve wepem/so pe wepem
in the event that So ve jem/so pe jem
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Post by Bizz on Jul 4, 2017 6:48:30 GMT -5
New words scle and fli:
So one day, I was really curious and wanted to find out about the Schläfli symbol as I assumed it would be a good shape classification tool. After watching a video regarding the subject I was overjoyed at how perfect the system would be for Abigeno. It had the power to describe things like everyday shapes like triangles, squares, and etc. It could even do -grams like penta or hexagram shapes. It could even be used to create plus/x shapes and asterisks. And I know I'm saying even a lot but seriously, this can even do tessellations, grids, flat planes, and hyperbolic space all with such precision and simplicity.
So, two words were made in order to implement this system. Scle and fli which is an obvious reference to the man himself, Mr.Schläfli.
Basically, scle = p,r,... and fli = q,s...
Both of these words take a specific kind of argument which must be a number:
Kwiscle = {5} (Tri = number and scle is the word taking the number.)
Like p or r. If there isn't a q or s specified, it just goes to default which is one. This saves syllables.
Kwiscle = {5} or {5/1}
Repeated uses of scle or fli bumps you to their next corresponding dimension
Kwiscletriscle = {5,3} or {5/1,3/1}
Kwiscleduflitriscle = {5/2,3} or {5/2,3/1}
A shortcut specifically for the second usage of scle being r = 2 s = 1 is to say pla.
Kwisclepla = {5,2} or {5/1,2/1}
Finally, here's a link to a program that draws up schläfli configurations. It's pretty good but it can not render some things properly or at all. Sometimes any shapes with s = >1 will not render properly and it will not do 4-d and hyperbolic space. It's a pretty useful tool but it's better to get your brain engrossed in visualizing these shapes. I know I will try.
So this will be the main system in Abigeno in order to express a multitude of geometric wonders. However, it's not perfect and it will not do everything and that's fine as long as I can fill in the gaps. I may also change the word names since I find it a bit of a mouthful to pronounce but I guess it's something I can get used to given Abigeno's already hefty consonant ridden words. Also, I may find a better system someday as I will soon look into more Schläfli and Coxeter stuff and whatnot. Maybe I'll get good at geometry and make a wholey new system that fixes the limitations of this one while keeping things fairly short and snappy to say.
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Post by Bizz on Jul 13, 2017 5:48:40 GMT -5
Removal of Wo, Vu, and De and New ways on to how to translate We, You(plural), and They:
Today, Abigeno lost three words, words I never thought would ever be removed and yet, if anything, were actually highly likely to be removed. IN fact, I find it crazy how they were even made in the first place.
In Abigeno, plurality is typically contextual as it has no marking like English -s. If it is not clear enough, then you would put quantifiers by it in order to clarify.
So it made we realize, why do I have plural versions of pronouns despite nouns not having specific plural forms? Thus, the removal of Wo, Vu, and De needed to be done. Now, Abigeno has only Mi, Tu, and Le to work with.
Mi will still mean I but it now also means We and must be inferred by context. Same idea with Tu and Le.
And just like how you would specify whether a noun is a plural or not, you can do the same with pronouns in Abigeno:
Ex: Mir jan wev Trans: I/We am/are the person/people.
Ex: Waz mir jan wev Trans: I am the person.
Ex: Duz mir jan wev Trans: We (group of two) are the people.
Ex. Mir duz jan wev Trans: We are the two people.
Ex: Menuz mir Trans: We (plural amount of people)
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Post by Bizz on Jul 13, 2017 5:53:02 GMT -5
Oh yeah, to any newcomers reading my Abigeno conlang topic, for the record, these posts are not meant to be a learning session for the public, rather they are publicized notes for personal reference. Sometimes, I just feel like sharing. If you are actually interested in what Abigeno is about or how something would be said, you can ask.
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Post by Bizz on Jul 13, 2017 8:27:49 GMT -5
Listing various meanings of Chance(Noun)
Unpredictable/Unintentional event (ex. by chance) Possibility for something to happen (ex. we still got a chance to do this.) Opportunity (ex. If I get the chance I'll meet you later.)
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Post by Bizz on Jul 16, 2017 4:45:31 GMT -5
Random note: Be aware of the "after a long time" definition of finally vs. the "at the end" definition
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Post by Bizz on Jul 31, 2017 21:09:38 GMT -5
FAQ = Sortcutejev tsong/STcTJTs (Eh, maybe.)
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Post by Bizz on Jul 31, 2017 21:22:02 GMT -5
Crazy to think that Abigeno almost had used Ⱶ which is a Claudian letter known as the half H.
It's main use was to get rid of spaces between words that were permissible to touch each other for visual aesthetics. Words back then didn't have mandetory marking so there was a chance that putting two or more words together could look ambiguous in some cases so Ⱶ would act as a divider that wasn't super in your face. The letter looked passive.
Although, I ultimately didn't use it because it just a bit too unappealing and it pointlessly made words longer to type. Not to mention I would have to copy/paste Ⱶ everytime. Nowadays, pretty much everything has mandatory marking so having a divider is pointless.
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Post by Bizz on Jul 31, 2017 21:25:06 GMT -5
orig. Actually, I'm not sure trans. Trowezc, mir nezc hozc troskiv lit. In manner of realness, I do not fully know something as fact/truth
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Post by Bizz on Jul 31, 2017 21:32:08 GMT -5
Unfinished Ocean Man Translation, may come back and edit:
Oscin Män, Min pe waz vurum ta son tur zauskiv träz spam bovgav.
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Post by Bizz on Aug 10, 2017 23:34:17 GMT -5
Duzscävautiz scägaing (Svt2Sg)
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Post by Bizz on Aug 11, 2017 17:32:57 GMT -5
Confirmed Names (For now):
Scävauti = Hydrogen Scägai = Oxygen Kfadci = Sodium Grögai = Chlorine Gradci = Titanium Audci = Yttrium Hwidci = Silver Gudci = Gold Vauhwidci = Mercury
Unconfirmed Names:
Gugai = Flourine Rödci = Rubidium
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Post by Bizz on Aug 17, 2017 15:49:07 GMT -5
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