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Post by Bizz on Nov 26, 2017 4:28:08 GMT -5
Draft for the slangification and word name replacements to maximize slangs:
CURRENT:
Va+jo = Vai (I switched it because this allows the other v-words to have an i.)
Ga+jo = Gai
Go+jo = Goi
Plo+jo = Ploi
Flo+jo = Floi
POTENTIAL:
jo and ja may switch places
jowe -> Jau
ru may become ju
Skoru -> Skoi
va and je may switch places
Döva -> Döi
Shi may change to sho
Shijo -> Shoi
Gzu may switch places with Gu
Gzujo -> Gwi
IDEAS:
Sko was made from skiru. Maybe a j word should switch places with ru to make skoi.
Maybe we should be changed so that jowe doesn't have to be jou?
(wait, if we can get rid of ju, then maybe ru can take ju instead.)
(maybe we can switch places with wa?)
jowe -> jowa -> wajo -> wai
wai would become new ju
ju can be used for ru
skoju -> skoi.
ALTERNATIVELY... !!!
ja and jo should switch places so that...
jowe -> jawe -> jau = new ju.
And then ju is free so that ru can use it.
Gju was originally dö+va
Maybe va and ja could switch places? (Va is used in a ton of words so...)
Döva -> Döja -> Döi = new gju
Shijo -> Shojo -> Shoi
Shjo could work but I find it unwieldy
Gzu = tongue
Gzu+jo = tongue acceptance, in other words, to taste
Gzui = ewww
Gzjo = is also pretty bad
Switch places (gzu -> gu)
Therefore...
Gzujo -> Gujo -> Gwi = new version of gzo
Flo+jo = nose acceptance, in other words, smell
fla should be converted to flo+jo words asap.
consider slanging the sau word
Swehu -> Sweu?????
Slang flova when va switches over
(this will help words like mucus, sneeze, slime, etc.)
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Post by Bizz on Nov 30, 2017 22:04:31 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/7gm17x/758th_just_used_5_minutes_of_your_day/
Son mir bapatezh niv viv jar tal sugom niv gav.
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Post by Bizz on Dec 2, 2017 13:05:18 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/7gyn88/can_you_create_something_like_this_with_your/  The -'s will separate the lines. Ebileno: Shötroper nel plosam - neman juv. Tur fratazh trov gav - o troshötin kiv. Troz wojajen tijov - o son susav tin fav Suspopen wol - ym tun wev goshöv. Yn depuz chujar - tuz sujez baun chokiv o yn tur paböspin, - nekijejan wev, sauspitav kev nezh kejov. - tuz san swatav. Frabaujer yn pasan - o nagan juv, pav wev o yn nesujon nezh juv. - Troshötin susav o wol ym jan bimasav - tal jagom gewipluv. Tur nezh neman juv - nezh yn ta tum sauspitav, kejov. - lespegon kev druv. English Literal: Art without passion - pointlessness have You forth must go - and art create true occupation receive - and REL love thing do lifestyle by means of - COMP yourself being arrange COMP other people - your life limit decide and COMP you joke, - failureperson be, say can not allow. - your heart follow. result COMP happiness - and freedom, will be and COMP malnourishment not have - art love and by means of COMP people inspire - to society contribute you not worthlessness have - not COMP to you say, allow. - world can change. NOTES: -lol I accidently fucked up the "without passion" part. Assuming without passion is describing a type of art as opposed to art with passion (and as opposed to a manner of doing something) then it's supposed to be behind the word art. Luckily it can be interpreted as a manner here. |
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Post by Bizz on Dec 7, 2017 9:13:50 GMT -5
Shi has been changed to sho. This was done to make way for the sho+jo slang
Jo and ja switched places which changes many of the existing slangs as a result.
Ja+we to jau is a new slang with the purpose of eliminating of the distinct ju word.
Ju has been re-purposed to replace ru.
Ski has been changed to sko. This was done to make way for the sko+ju slang.
Jo and va switched places. This changes the va+ja slang to jo+ja. This also allows many new slangs for va (previous)
Gju has been replaced with dö+jo
Cho+jo is a new slang
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Post by Bizz on Dec 7, 2017 10:58:03 GMT -5
Fun Thing, Alternative Script based off of the semantics of CJK characters: (WIP)
Each character represents the word as a whole.
Since there's no way to indicate that a slang or the ys of the suffixes have been shortened, you just assume that it is or not. It's not it matters though, you still understand the text visually the same. Similar to the system of CJK characters, there are no spaces.
Ba: 回
Bau: 艮
Be: 跤
Bi: 系
Ble: 色
Bo: 让
Bö: 面
Bra: 支
Bro: 㐫
Bu: 骨
Chi: 力
Cho: 固
Chu: 双
Da: 大
De: 外
Di: 十
Do: 位
Dö: 生
Dru: 変
Du: 二
Dwa: 电
Dwi: 咸, 戌
Dca: 斗
Dce: 矢
Dcu: 万
Fa: 行
Fe: 从
Fi: 蛙
Flo: 鼻
Fo: 天
Fra: 刖
Fu: 厚
Gzu: 国
Ha: 八
He: 手
Hja: 百
Ho: 火
Hö: 耳
Hu: 凹
Je: 事
Jo: 水
Ke: 句
Kse: 刀
Ksi: 刀
Ku: 态
Kwa: 亖, 皿
Kwi: 五, 𠄡
La: 小
Li: 长
Lo: 下
Lu: 光
Mi: 余
Mu: 囗
Na: 然
Ne: 不
Nu: 号
O: 和
Pa: 開, 开
Pe: 門
Pu: 占
Ri: 猴
Sa: 心
Sau: 音, 声
Se: 円
Spa: 空, 穴
Spi: 言
Spo: 形
Su: 命
Swe: 凸
Sha: 足
Ta: 至
Tau: 千
Te: 時
To: 鳥
Tri: 三
Tro: 直
Tsa: 草
Tsu: 何
Va: 人
Vi: 目
Vu: 上
Wa: 一
We: 是
Wo: 用
Wö: 弓
Yn: を
Yr: が
Yv: る
Yz: 的
Yzh: 地
Ze: 〇
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Post by Bizz on Dec 9, 2017 23:09:06 GMT -5
Considering getting rid of even more base words in weird ways:
Dca basically means "diagonal" but it barely is even used in many combinations. I'm considering just dropping it after I have recreated it via existing semantics. Same thing with "ka" meaning direction.
And then, I'm considering dropping the words for 10, 100, 1000, and beyond and will do something very weird which is to use other existing words to replace those numbers via vague semantic tie ins. For example, we could possibly use "da" for hundred which would actually sort of mimick the original use for hundred which was considered a generally large number.
Right now the system for forming numbers beyond 1 million is very awkward. Of course, it's not every day you would need to read such a large and specific number but it's still fairly concerning. I could keep the current numbers and use the new idea to fill in most of the rest of the gaps thus reducing this awkwardness but I'd feel weird to start out with actual numbers and then cut to non-number number making. I'll just have to test things and see what I like.
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Post by Bizz on Dec 9, 2017 23:39:52 GMT -5
New number system?
-0-9 are still there own words.
And then here are some candidates to replace the 10 and beyond numbers.
For the record, I'm considering using -ksi to form numbers under the zero's place.
Fra = highest number and thus in the front
Ko = number than seems to go on indefinitely (wait a minute, that may by used for the number infinity...)
Vu = high number, number over many
Da = many, myriad, big
Fu = number is getting thicker
Swe = the number is swelling to be bigger
Li = long number
Pa = spreading, opening to a higher number
Plu = joined, extra number
Mju = losing value number
Ro = closing, becoming a smaller number
La = few, little
Lo = low number
Pu = point, dot
Ba = furthest and thus in the back
He = something to do with five (one hand) or ten (both hands)
Sha = similar to hand but with toes. something to do with steps?
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Post by Bizz on Dec 10, 2017 0:36:57 GMT -5
Boom, got it.
wahe = ten
wapa = hundred
(he and pa will be suffixed to become the ten/hundred variants, just look up ahead.)
waswe = thousand
waswehe = ten-thousand
waswepa = hundred-thousand
and so on...
Wa is mandetory. You can swap it out with the other ones place numbers however.
Wahe = ten
Duhe = twenty
Wapa = hundred
Dupa = two hundred
etc...
He = ten fingers on both hands
Pa = the impetus of expansion or an expanded version of a previous concept
Swe = the official swelling
Li = Becoming very lengthy in comparison to its origins
Fu = And then it grows in gurth to fill the void
Vu = It is very high in its quality
Da = it is mickle, mighty, and vast in its quality
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Post by Bizz on Dec 10, 2017 0:52:22 GMT -5
And thus four words were removed this day:
Di:
N: ten
Adj: ten
Hja:
N: hundred
Adj: hundred
Tau:
N: thousand
Adj: thousand
Dcu:
N: million
Adj: million
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Post by Bizz on Dec 13, 2017 13:07:34 GMT -5
Semantic Ranges Post: (WIP)
What are semantic ranges? It's a basically a term I made up to describe the semantics that can be used from a base word to derive new words. Noticeably, despite the meanings of base words in isolation, when making derivations with base words, there are multiple semantics that can be chosen in creating the new words. This is what I noticed about how this system is so minimalist.
Since I am using Earth Language semantics, it would make sense to derive words based off of its system and thus and understanding of that system would need to be done. I have a pretty good grasp on it but not good enough. Lack of this understanding can stifle word creation because I want to create the word correctly for the sake of consistency or continuity with how the system forms words. In other words, I want to make my best guess as to what Yoshiko (the creator of Earth Language) would do.
So, I now want to list down the semantic ranges of all the base words so I can better understand how to derive words. This is not necessary for learning the language but it'll give you a good insight into how the language works.
Pla:
Surface physically modified in various ways (imagine a surface of something like skin, paper, or bark being messed with)
(wrinkle, torn,
Anything that vaguely resembles a flat/planelike surface
(hand, leaf,
The plane is used as a part of the object
(Table,
Objects that are made of planes/sheets
(sash, sheet,
Objects that are cards
(ID, cash card, playing card,
Yo:
Water and variations/forms of water
(ex. water, ice, snow, rain, dew)
Various liquids/liquidy substances
(ex. milk, blood, saliva, snot, oil, ink, drinks)
Various forms of liquids
(ex. vapor, steam)
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Post by Bizz on Dec 19, 2017 15:35:56 GMT -5
After messing around with the system, I have replaced all words that used kle (meaning clothes) so now we can do away with this base word.
Goodbye base word kle.
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